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In <2mtro5$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mark) writes:

>Have you tried it?  DHCP is a superset of bootp - one the the defining RFCs
>says that DHCP clients *may* work with bootp servers.  I haven't dug into
>the beta stack to see if it will work or not yet.

Yes I tried. Does not work. Bootp servers are no substitute for DHCP
servers. Otherwise the new stack seems to be working fine. Except that I
cannot get it to run on top of ODI/NDIS3.

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Hannu Kulokari
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From: [e-mail] (Wayne Tackabury)
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Subject: Re: PPP for windows
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Ike Bottema wrote:

>
> PPP can be used to negotiate the link and network layer protocols that
> are to be used.  In fact routers use PPP for just this purpose.  So one
> *could* select an IP connection and/or an IPX connection depending on the
> application.  I can think of some situations where this capability would be
> useful.
>
> Having said that, I don't know of any *dial-up* products that offer such
> a capability.

We have a recently-released PPP server called GatorAccess which does what I
think you're referring to, which is to say selection of IPCP or IPXCP for
remote connections, both in remote routing configurations (i.e., support
for individual configuration of IPX and IP over any routing serial port),
or for dialup client connections (i.e., the bundled client package has
a IPXCP and IPCP ODI driver, and a dialing app that allows IPX or IP in
the dialup to the configured server).  I'm not sure when you say "depending
on the application" if you were implying the exposure of control protocol
parameters to an outside application for call establishment, which would
indeed be an "application" whose support I don't believe exists anywhere
(unless the boffo 4.0 Chameleon PPP client supports this).

Standard disclosures, not looking to shamelessly promote Cayman's own
products, just looking to answer the posted question.  Which *isn't* to
say that if anybody replies requesting more product info, I won't
respond :-).

-- Wayne

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Subject: Re: Microsoft TCP/IP beta + IPX/SPX in W4WG 3.11

Can someone say where to find the Microsoft VxD software?

I tried using ws_ftp on ftp.microsoft.com and could n't
even get into any directories!!

Cheers


Geoff


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>>>>> "jones" == jones  <[e-mail]> writes:

    jones> In article <slawek.764475692@aries>,
    jones> <[e-mail]> writes:
    >> -------------------------------------
    >>
    >> DNS for Internet names works just fine but is rather slow.
    >>
    >> Slawek Janicki [e-mail]
    >>
    jones> I'm glad you cleared up the DNS confusion had logged on to
    jones> do that myself.  Since I'm here I might as well pass on my
    jones> experience with the VxD TCP/IP beta from Microsoft. I think
    jones> its awesome! I'd been trying to figure out how the install
    jones> both a winsock and the "IPX/SPX Compatible ,,," in W4WG,
    jones> and neither Trumpet Winsock nor Chameleon would work on my
    jones> machines. In fact that configuration crashed all network
    jones> communications. The MS VxD winsock works great in this
    jones> configuration. I found it very easy to install since it

I'm still having lots of problems getting Netware, WFW311, and the
beta TCP/IP to work together. Maybe you can help.

It seems to be the same problem I was
having getting Chameleon and SuperTCP to work with Netware and WFW311
when I first reviewed the product. I'm not sure what I could be doing
wrong. I installed WFW311 on a clean system with ODI drivers (ne2000)
already installed for Netware. After install, I'm able to work with
Netware and WFW/NT without any problems. I then installed the TCP/IP
beta, which installs without complaint. However, when I boot again,
the TCP/IP doesn't work (ping always reports "Host unreachable", for
example). When I install WFW311 on a system not connected to NetWare,
and then install TCP/IP, everything works great.

Can you or anyone else see what I'm missing?
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
> I have 2 questions on the 1.1 winsock spec regarding FD_WRITE.
> First,  if a winsock client calls WSAAsyncSelect a second time,  will
> an FD_WRITE message be sent to the client  (assuming readiness for
> writing)?

Yes, unless you have a buggy Winsock (Distinct's winsock springs to mind).

> Second,  why are send() and sentto() listed as re-enabling functions
> for FD_WRITE (on p. 90)?  Each time send() is called the winsock
> library is not supposed to post an FD_WRITE message,  right?  Only
> after a send() or sentto() fails,  and then buffer space becomes
> available,  was my understanding.  Just wanted to make sure...

Correct. If you call send (or sendto), and it fails with WSAEWOULDBLOCK,
then FD_WRITE messages are re-enabled.

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Subject: Re: Inet Tour Guide & WinMosaic

On 26 Mar 1994 03:05:54 GMT Steven Davidson ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I've been running WinMosaic with the Trumpet Winsock with absolutely no
: difficulty, but I had not registered Trumpet and I was able to pick up the
: Internet Tour Guide for $17.50 at Tower Books.  I figured I would have a
: legal winsock and some other clients as well.  (I've been running most
: 'net clients other than Mosaic on my academic Vax or private unix box
: account with me just playing terminal since I have to pay extra for my
: SLIP connection).

: Well, I can't get WinMosaic to work with the Chameleon winsock.  Mosaic
: comes up and immediately complains that it doesn't have winsock or socket
: services or whatever the error message is.  However, I can use the
: Chameleon ping and ftp that come with the package with no problem.
: Similarly, I can drop the SLIP connection with the Chameleon winsock, exit
: it and start the trumpet winsock and then Mosaic will run just fine.
: Chameleon's ping and ftp work just fine too with Trumpet.

I solved this problem by copying "winsock.dll" from the netmanag
sub-directory into the mosaic sub-directory.  Everything seems to be
running just fine now.

Regards.//Steve
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[e-mail] (Alexander Breen) writes:

>In article <2muuig$[e-mail]> Terry Bailey <[e-mail]> writes:
>>From: Terry Bailey <[e-mail]>
>>Subject: Collage
>>Date: Fri, 25 Mar 94 10:12:00 edt


>>What does the package called "Collage" from NCSA do?

>>Terry Bailey
>>[e-mail]

>It provides a "whiteboard" between two users.

and a textboard and between more than two users... ;-)
Actually it's goupware for various platforms
(X11, Windows...) located in a local network. It's _not_ perfect
but interesting :-)

micha...

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Subject: Re: Xwindows for pc?


>[e-mail] (John Boyer) writes:
>>Two questions.
>>First what do I need to set up an xwindows terminal from a pc?
>>What freebie progs are there around?


>I'm not sure if there are any freebies around.  You can archie for
>xwindemo.  You need Windows (obviously), winsock, FAST pc and that's
>about it.  Works fairly well.  When we buy the commercial version, I can
>tell you more!

     To all who interested at Xwin for MS-Windows, here's some info from
Starnet.  I tried the working demo, it runs smoothly on my GateWay 486sx-25,
with 4meg RAM.

     The info will follow my next posting...



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=============================================================================
Micro X-WIN
-----------
Micro X-WIN is for the user who wants to run X in an integrated environment.
Micro X-WIN will, by default of MS Windows, support all the popular graphics
accelerators which have a MS Windows 3.1 driver.  Cut and Paste of text
between MS Windows and X windows is supported.  X-WIN uses either the local
Microsoft window manager or allows use of a remote window manager (motif,
open look, twm, ...) in a single window mode.

Supports:        FTP Software PC/TCP
            Sun PC-NFS
            Lanera TCPOpen
            WinSock

System requirements:    4MB+ memory
            4MB free disk space
            Microsoft compatible mouse and driver
            VGA/SVGA/Accelerators (Microsoft supported)
            ethernet card (packet driver supported)
            Microsoft Windows 3.1


Pricing:      LIST        EDUCATIONAL    C-X-C (Edu. Site Lic.)
        -------        -----------    ------
        $150.00        $90.00        $10.00
==============================================================================
There are discounts off the LIST and EDUCATIONAL prices for volume.
C-X-C pricing requires a minimum $500.00 initial purchase at the stated
C-X-C prices and return of a C-X-C agreement signed by an authorized party.
C-X-C requires that the edu institution assume some responsibility for
support and distribution of the product.  (C-X-C = Campus-X-Connect)
==============================================================================
The xwindemo.zip is available at:
    winftp.cica.indiana.edu in /pub/pc/win3/demo
==============================================================================
Micro X-Win has been tested and works well with Peter Tattam's Trumpet
Winsock.  Version Alpha 18 seems to be free and his ver. 1.0 is shareware.
Those and supporting files are available via anonymous ftp from...

ftp.utas.edu.au (131.217.1.20)        /pc/trumpet/winsock/winsock.zip
ftp-ns.rutgers.edu            /pub.msdos/trumpet/winsock
ftp.demon.co.uk                /pub/ibmpc/winsock/stacks/trumpwsk
biochemistry,bio.cwru.edu        /pub/trumpwsk
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>Does anyone know more about DHCP?  Directions to another newsgroup or an
>RFC # would be appreciated.

1533, 1534, 1541, 1541


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